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| Posted 08/28/08 at 12:12 AM | Reply with quote #46 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by shinediazorleans
i'm sorry i'm late you guys...but my computer is broken,i'm free loading off of anyone that has the net...lol.
beatty his name is william thomas.which i was told it is really TOMAS meaning french.my greatgrandfather's indian and black genes were more dominant than french was....(although he was a descendant of a french)MISTA,we are related to Simien,pujue,doucet,joubert,sieur.....and that's all i can think of now.
i found out that we originally came from france then haiti then louisiana hundreds of years ago,around the foundation of louisiana.i would have to ask the old people who else we are related to. juilanne and suzanne malveaux are related to us.but years ago the older ones considered themselves creole....but as the times changed they have gladly accepted black.....but to be honest,they are some gumbo eating,zydeco dancing, negros that speak french and ebonics.though this is the younger generation now.
but mista really,that whole town is related(st.landry parish) so i wouldn't be surprised.but i'm sure my aunts and uncles know because no one ever leaves that town NO ONE.so i'll ask.
Sorry I hadn't replied back. I've been very busy this week.
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shinediazorleans
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| Posted 08/28/08 at 06:39 PM | Reply with quote #47 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by BeattyQuote: Originally Posted by shinediazorleans
i'm sorry i'm late you guys...but my computer is broken,i'm free loading off of anyone that has the net...lol.
beatty his name is william thomas.which i was told it is really TOMAS meaning french.my greatgrandfather's indian and black genes were more dominant than french was....(although he was a descendant of a french)MISTA,we are related to Simien,pujue,doucet,joubert,sieur.....and that's all i can think of now.
i found out that we originally came from france then haiti then louisiana hundreds of years ago,around the foundation of louisiana.i would have to ask the old people who else we are related to. juilanne and suzanne malveaux are related to us.but years ago the older ones considered themselves creole....but as the times changed they have gladly accepted black.....but to be honest,they are some gumbo eating,zydeco dancing, negros that speak french and ebonics.though this is the younger generation now.
but mista really,that whole town is related(st.landry parish) so i wouldn't be surprised.but i'm sure my aunts and uncles know because no one ever leaves that town NO ONE.so i'll ask.
Oh ok. I don't have any French ancestory. My ancestory is African, English or Irish, and Native.
Sorry I hadn't replied back. I've been very busy this week.
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| Posted 09/06/08 at 06:58 AM | Reply with quote #48 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iceymom2be I I found my great grand parents on ancestry.com and the 1910 census has them listed as mulatto. My grandfather, Council Bass was 4 at the time. Ally
Your Bass ancestors are originally Nansemond tribe from South-East Virginia. I am directly related to the earlier Bass' from there. |
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| Posted 09/04/09 at 11:54 PM | Reply with quote #49 |
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Hi everyone  I'm new to the forum and this is my first post 
I love ancestry.com and thank God for it. Most of these documents use to only be available on microfiche so we have to consider ourselves blessed to have easy access via the internet.
Ancestry.com was instrumental in revealing to me how truly diverse my heritage is.
As I got older I started searching census records at my local archives and came across a census from 1920 that had my grandfather's family listed as mulatto. I know he has African ancestry, but he has also mentioned Native American as being passed down through his paternal line. He shared traditions passed down from his father on how to bake blue cornbread and keep your feet warm in the earth. But, I have no proof this branch has native american ancestry other than through stories.
| Name: | Philip L Price |
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| Home in 1920: | Varina, Henrico, Virginia |
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| Age: | 1 month |
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| Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1919 |
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| Birthplace: | Virginia |
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| Relation to Head of House: | Son |
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| Father's Name: | Phelip |
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| Father's Birth Place: | Virginia |
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| Mother's Name: | Ida |
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| Mother's Birth Place: | Virginia |
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| Marital Status: | Single |
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| Race: | Mulatto |
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| Sex: | Male |
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| Image: | 1098 |
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| Neighbors: | View others on page |
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Even when i uncovered his grandfather, it still said "mulatto", so I figured I may never get to the root of his origins.
| Name: | Wyatt Price |
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| Age in 1910: | 84 |
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| Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1826 |
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| Birthplace: | Virginia |
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| Relation to Head of House: | Head |
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| Father's Birth Place: | Virginia |
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| Mother's Birth Place: | Virginia |
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| Spouse's Name: | Mary J |
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| Home in 1910: | Varina, Henrico, Virginia |
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| Marital Status: | Married |
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| Race: | Mulatto |
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| Gender: | Male |
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| Neighbors: | View others on page |
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I also got connected with distant cousins on their site who actually had pictures of my cousins from the 19th century. |
But that wasn't the end of my suprises. What dropped my jaw  was finding out that my maternal side also had admixing. My mother never discussed it. But I found a World War 1 draft registration card on Ancestry.com that described my mom's grandfather as having ash colored hair and blue eyes. I knew from records that he was mulatto, but I didn't realize those traits would dominate his appearance in that way.
| Name: | Byone Rickardson
[Byone Richardson] |
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| Age in 1910: | 15 |
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| Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1895 |
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| Birthplace: | South Carolina |
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| Relation to Head of House: | Son |
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| Father's Name: | Jacob |
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| Father's Birth Place: | South Carolina |
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| Mother's Name: | Lucy |
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| Mother's Birth Place: | South Carolina |
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| Home in 1910: | Stokes Bridge, Lee, South Carolina |
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| Marital Status: | Single |
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| Race: | Mulatto |
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| Gender: | Male |
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A transcriber butchered up everyone's name on this, but his name should read Vivian.
When I told her she casually brushed it off with a, "Oh yeah, he did!" Not that skin or eye color is a big deal, but it does reveal heritage in many instances. And that's just her maternal side. Her paternal lineage traces back to Spain, as I just found out through DNA testing. So this genealogy thing is just full of surprises.
I'm still researching my tree and looking forward to any information I come across. Hey, it's more than I knew the day before. |
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| Posted 09/07/09 at 08:18 PM | Reply with quote #50 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by OTHERhttp://www.ancestry.com/
My husband has used this website to find official documents that have been scanned and/or someone entered the data online. For example, he found the marriage license of his father's mother's parent's wedding. Yeah, so his great-grandparents marriage license. He found several census documents for his family and mine. Unfortunately, I think they've only digitalized up to like the 1920 census. So, the more recent docs aren't online, yet. Has anyone else used ancestry.com to help in their genealogy research?
Thanks. Im gonna have a look at the website.
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DaTokenBlaqGuy
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| Posted 10/08/09 at 02:22 AM | Reply with quote #51 |
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Well, I took the plunge, went ahead, and decided to check out this Ancestry.com. Using scraps of obituaries, marriage licenses, and the occasional birth certificates that my aunt has collected, I've been wading through some of the files on the site. It's been pretty rough going but I did find something debate worthy. My paternal great-grandfather was considered mulatto in the 1910 US Federal Census along with my great-great-grandmother. My great-great grandfather though was considered Black so it's all good.
This is interesting stuff though. I got 2 weeks free but I might just keep it going. I've paid more for worse. I'm also moving information from ancestry.com to genetree.com which IS a free site, at least for making your family tree.
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| Posted 10/08/09 at 02:42 AM | Reply with quote #52 |
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Interesting. In the 1910 Census my great-great grandfather Jim was listed as Black but in the 1880 he was listed as a very young Mulatto. And rememeber that great-great grandmother I mentioned? 1930 Census = Negro, 1910 Census = Mulatto, and 1880 Census? ... White. Now I have to take a trip down to Elgin and Bastrop, Texas to see what the fucks going on.
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| Posted 10/08/09 at 05:40 AM | Reply with quote #53 |
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That is interesting Blaq.. I too am planning a trip down to the neighborhood listed on my great grandparents census and visit the local library and see if I can find any other public records that are out there.
Thanks for the info on genetree.com
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| Posted 10/08/09 at 08:56 AM | Reply with quote #54 |
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From 1930 on any Mulatto would be listed as black or negro.
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| Posted 10/08/09 at 01:25 PM | Reply with quote #55 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iceymom2be
That is interesting Blaq.. I too am planning a trip down to the neighborhood listed on my great grandparents census and visit the local library and see if I can find any other public records that are out there.
Thanks for the info on genetree.com
Launce, you are correct which is why I mentioned the mysterious switch over from my early family members from mulatto to Negro/Black.
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| Posted 10/09/09 at 11:22 PM | Reply with quote #56 |
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Quote: Interesting. In the 1910 Census my great-great grandfather Jim was listed as Black but in the 1880 he was listed as a very young Mulatto. And rememeber that great-great grandmother I mentioned? 1930 Census = Negro, 1910 Census = Mulatto, and 1880 Census? ... White. Now I have to take a trip down to Elgin and Bastrop, Texas to see what the fucks going on.
Isn't this stuff COOL?
My "white side" of the family is all "Negro" 1906 and into the past. Duh. I know it, the birth certificates (which I dug up long before all this) prove it.
I am mixed on both sides of my family... "white" and "black".
For the black folks I have photos (and I think "Look at that woman! She is white!!!! ... as she stands next to her very dark husband!)..
And for the "white" people, I have their birth certificates which declare "Negro"... and I look at the photos and go "Oh, yeah.. what's with the hair and the skin tone? They "one-dropped-you..." But wait a minute... you passed the knowledge of your ancestry down...You were open about it in your town.... so you weren't "passing." You actually lived it.
Kudos to my ancestors. They lived the battle I (quietly) fight. I have no choice. I am a white phenotype.
(On my "Black side") The 14 year old girl,my ancestor, (who from her daughter's picture HAD TO BE PASSING), she bore my great grandmother, Alice. (Passing) I don't know who she is. I can't find her. The historical trail goes cold.
I will find her.
Why could my great grandmother (on the "Black" side) "pass"? There can only be one aspect--she was mixed (probably more than one generation). So how long had we been here?
How many 14 year old girls bore my ancestors?
And then I look at my 14 year old son, and I understand his understanding of the world.
He is so vulnerable, and so young.. despite the media and everything else...
I imagine pushing the world of slavery, rape, of all the awfulness of racism onto him... and then I imagine it pushed onto a little girl, who bore my ancestors.. she bore... eventually... ME.
And I am so, so angry.
I am angry at the society which let it happen, now dead and gone.. but I am angry at a society which perpetuates it in a new and different way.
All I know of my g.g grandmother.. is her name, her plantation surname, the name of her slave master, and her best friend. Her best friend was "Pems". She and her best friend bore children "together." (assuming the same man)... She left me one other bit of information.. a pie peach recipe...
And that damned peach pie recipe... I can never get the crust "right." Oh heck, I can never get the damn pie "right"...
It's one of those "it will chase me till I die things"... I try to recreate this pie, which I know is circa 1850... and I can't do it. It turns out like poop every-time.
I really, really want to make this damn peach pie. I want the woman who had a recipe 150 years ago, to "live" in me.
I think about it for minute though... maybe her peach pie recipe wasn't the answer. Maybe I should be the answer.
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| Posted 10/10/09 at 12:46 PM | Reply with quote #57 |
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Though I'd like to go back further I've come to a stand still myself. I might find the key to open more doors...or I might not. But I'm happy with what I could find.
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| Posted 10/10/09 at 03:29 PM | Reply with quote #58 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaTokenBlaqGuy
Though I'd like to go back further I've come to a stand still myself. I might find the key to open more doors...or I might not. But I'm happy with what I could find.
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| Posted 01/18/10 at 11:19 PM | Reply with quote #59 |
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So I'm still working slowly on this Ancestry.com thing and some new information has been released in regards to census reports. My great-grandfather, Jurell, was listed as Mulatto. His father was listed as Black but his mother, Bettie, was also listed as Mulatto. Well, I just found out both her mother and father, one pair of my great-great-great grandparents are both listed as Mulatto on a 1880 census. And I went ahead and ordered a DNA test.
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| Posted 01/18/10 at 11:30 PM | Reply with quote #60 |
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how much was it?
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